Suzanne Phillips

Katy Faust

In today's episode, we dive into the idea of parental sacrifice—but not just for our own children, for all children. Suzanne is joined by Katy Faust, Founder and President of Them Before Us, a global movement advocating for children's rights to both their mother and father. Katy discusses how her work prioritizes children's needs over adult desires, especially in the context of marriage, family, and societal norms. She also shares her personal journey and convictions that led her to this path. Suzanne and Katy delve into culturally relevant topics such as adoption and IVF, emphasizing the ethical and spiritual implications of these practices. Tune in as Katy shares her perspective on infertility and how to advocate for policy changes that can make adoption more accessible and affordable.